Monday, April 23, 2018

Coconut octopus: Peter Norvig & Education Innovation (Director Google Research) With @WorldUnivAndSch in Google Education (with GNMT's 100+ languages) & in Wikidata/Wikibase with its 299 langs, & planning MIT OCW Uni degrees in 200 countries' 7097 langs, Curious to grow new WIKI Seems as if languages will open a remarkable opportunity in WIKI @WorldUnivAndSch university accrediting on CC-4 MIT OCW in 5 languages for degrees eg https://twitter.com/ishii_mit_BOT/status/987890153472446465 … ~ Re "Google's Hybrid Approach to Research" https://research.google.com/pubs/pub38149.html … how best for teachers to access resources/books (think Google Search) in other languages for teaching (to the MIT OCW faculty) high achieving students?, Innovation re realistic virtual Harbin/EARTH @HarbinBook in all 7097 living languages https://twitter.com/sgkmacleod/status/987902778369490944 … & for BRAIN research at cellular & atomic levels re all LANGUAGES, for BLISS neurophysiology research with BRAINWAVE headsets, & while LEARNING, in WUaS's WIKI?


Peter Norvig & Education Innovation https://research.google.com/pubs/author205.html … (Director Google Research) With @WorldUnivAndSch in Google Education (with GNMT's 100+ languages) & in Wikidata/Wikibase with its 299 langs, & planning MIT OCW Uni degrees in 200 countries' 7097 langs, Curious to grow new WIKI
{and in each of ~200 countries' official/main languages as major online universities - https://wiki.worlduniversityandschool.org/wiki/Nation_States} ...




https://twitter.com/WorldUnivAndSch/status/988068095007670272


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Seems as if languages will open a remarkable opportunity in WIKI @WorldUnivAndSch university accrediting on CC-4 MIT OCW in 5 languages for degrees eg https://twitter.com/ishii_mit_BOT/status/987890153472446465 … Re Peter Norvig & Education Innovation & "Google's Hybrid Approach to Research" https://research.google.com/pubs/pub38149.html …~




https://twitter.com/WorldUnivAndSch/status/987927734004338688


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Re https://twitter.com/WorldUnivAndSch/status/987927734004338688 … Peter Norvig & Education Innovation & "Google's Hybrid Approach to Research" https://research.google.com/pubs/pub38149.html … how best for teachers to access resources/books (think Google Search) in other languages for teaching (to the MIT OCW faculty) high achieving students?




https://twitter.com/WorldUnivAndSch/status/987927924786380800


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See related recent Tweets, e.g.:

Peter Norvig & Education Innovation  https://research.google.com/pubs/author205.html … (Director Google Research) Wi @WorldUnivAndSch in Google Education (with GNMT's 100+ languages) & in Wikidata/Wikibase with its 299 langs, & planning MIT OCW Uni degrees in 200 countries' 7097 langs, Curious to grow new WIKI

https://twitter.com/WorldUnivAndSch/status/987903074449551360

https://twitter.com/scottmacleod/status/987903359146315776

https://twitter.com/sgkmacleod/status/987902778369490944

https://twitter.com/WUaSPress/status/987904027575767040

https://twitter.com/HarbinBook/status/987904434356207617

https://twitter.com/WorldUnivAndSch/status/988068095007670272


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Peter Norvig & Education Innovation re realistic virtual Harbin/EARTH in all 7097 living languages https://twitter.com/sgkmacleod/status/987902778369490944 … & for BRAIN research at cellular & atomic levels re all LANGUAGES, for BLISS research with BRAINWAVE headsets, & while LEARNING, in @WorldUnivAndSch 's WIKI?

https://twitter.com/sgkmacleod/status/987909133859876864

https://twitter.com/scottmacleod/status/987910175905333249


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Am particularly interested about the multi-lingual potential of World Univ & Sch https://twitter.com/WorldUnivAndSch/status/988068095007670272 & how machine learning might aid faculty instruction, and even MIT OCW course generation in other languages, for example, & re new theory of learning https://wiki.worlduniversityandschool.org/wiki/Theories_of_Learning ~




https://twitter.com/sgkmacleod/status/988079853139197952

https://twitter.com/WorldUnivAndSch/status/988079056150151168

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How would a Google machine learning approach to MIT OCW in multiple languages hypothetically help you in your teaching? As an instructor in a particular language, I'd love to learn your thinking about some of this with time? How might AI aid faculty instruction? @WorldUnivAndSch~




https://twitter.com/sgkmacleod/status/988082901387362304

https://twitter.com/WorldUnivAndSch/status/988082603713441792


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Peter Norvig & Education Innovation re realistic virtual Harbin/EARTH @HarbinBook in all 7097 living languages https://twitter.com/sgkmacleod/status/987902778369490944 … & for BRAIN research at cellular & atomic levels re all LANGUAGES, for BLISS neurophysiology research with BRAINWAVE headsets, & while LEARNING, in WUaS's WIKI?




https://twitter.com/WorldUnivAndSch/status/987909639705538560

https://twitter.com/HarbinBook/status/987908445041868801






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Sunday, April 22, 2018

Reinefjorden: [NTF-talk] some "language" of Non-Theist (but not Quaker) thought, 5 videos with rich non-theist language, Evolutionary Biologist Richard Dawkins and Atheism Language, Philosopher Reverend Keith Ward is fascinating talking about consciousness, but isn't an atheist; Cambridge philosophy prof. Arif Ahmed is in this debate), Further language out there with which to come into conversation ... and to grow our Non-theistic Friendly conversation :), [NTF-talk] the "justification" of Non-Theist Quaker thought


Hi Non-Theist Friends,

By way of comparison, here are some "language" resources from voices that are paralleling NtF's (mostly British/Anglo-centric) re non-theism that I've come across recently: 

A
(Un)Believable?: An Atheist and a Theist Philosopher share their world-views - Cambridge University

B
DEBATE: Atheist vs Christian (Richard Dawkins vs Cardinal George Pell)


A film Richard Dawkins' mentions above in his debate in Australia with Cardinal George Pell is: 

C
Julia Sweeney - Letting Go of God

D
Richard Dawkins in Conversation with Julia Sweeney- June 9, 2015 in Rochester, MN

E
Richard Dawkins on The God Delusion


I tweeted about the 1st two video conversations the other day here (where Philosopher Reverend Keith Ward is fascinating talking about consciousness, but isn't an atheist; Cambridge philosophy prof. Arif Ahmed is in this debate): 

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Stanford on Sunday-one of these philosophers, Keith Ward, will speak in Menorial church: "(Un)Believable?: An Atheist & a Theist Philosopher share their world-views - Cambridge University"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGtSjqnzZHo&sns=tw … Am curious in video abt culture (British), memes & re @HarbinBook ~


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Evolutionary biologist Richard Dawkins @RichardDawkins DEBATE: Atheist vs Christian (Richard Dawkins vs Cardinal George Pell)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8hy8NxZvFY … To complement the Keith Ward / Arif Ahmed Phil conversation posted here 15 mins ago To Evolutionary Bio+ https://wiki.worlduniversityandschool.org/wiki/Subjects  ~



While this conversation about non-theism seems to be flourishing in recent years, both re religion and philosophy, evolutionary biology and film-wise, I'm particularly interested in Friendly discourse about atheistic Quakerism with a focus on language and culture, but also evolutionary biologically and brainchemistry-wise. The British focus above, and our NtF somewhat British-American focus (re "place" too), leaves open another ~200 countries and their languages, and their possible NtF discourses about nontheist Friends (not to mention diversity).

But while engaged debate can be interesting about N-tQ (atheist Quakerism, for some), I'm appreciative of the centering down of friendly Silent Meeting (as neurophysiology too), and the community and language that emerges from this, but am also interested in an ongoing way in a NtF language of eliciting the neurophysiology of loving bliss ... "the valley of love and delight" to quote an old Quaker/Shaker hymn {"Simple Gifts"}. 

All this said, there's further language out there with which to come into conversation ... and to grow our NTFriendly / Non-theistic Friendly conversation. :)

Sincerely, 
Scott



-- 
- Scott MacLeod - Founder & President  

- World University and School

- 415 480 4577


- CC World University and School - like CC Wikipedia with best STEM-centric CC OpenCourseWare - incorporated as a nonprofit university and school in California, and is a U.S. 501 (c) (3) tax-exempt educational organization. 


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[NTF-talk] the "justification" of Non-Theist Quaker thought

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Thanks, too, Anita and Victor, for your good thoughts, 

I'd like to add that, for me, in Quaker senses, my A) conscience leads me to (f/Friendly) non-theism (i.e. evidence-wise), - and that I'm a bit of a B) conscientious objector to the idea of theism, and related translations here, that C) "this I know experimentally/experientially" too (George Fox) - and further as I think about questions of non-theism, - and also as a kind of D) "seeker of the truth" (re early Friends too)  ... and re E) George Fox's "What canst thou say?" ... the A-E letters referring to kind of Quaker ideas' "justifications" writ contemporary.

Cheers, Scott


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Excellently put!  Thanks.
 
Anita Bower

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Thanks, Anita, and nontheist f/Friends,

Would like to add, thinking-wise (and in a f/Friendly manner), that I don't think one/humans can know whether the "divine" exists or not, philosophically and logically, so I guess I'm a bit of an agnostic on these questions of non-theism too, since I agree. A friend, George Alexander MD (who's wife/widow is a Quaker - he's deceased), who introduced me to the idea of Nontheist Friends, and was very articulate about his reasons for his nontheism (and with reasons for why religion is so problematic), introduced me to this reasoning, which makes sense. Dawkins uses the word nontheism in his talk with Cardinal Pell in Australia (from a recent NtF email I sent) - which "DEBATE: Atheist vs Christian (Richard Dawkins vs Cardinal George Pell)" you'll find here - https://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/2018/04/reinefjorden-ntf-talk-some-language-of.html ... and Richard Dawkins is also an "agnostic" he says in this video, interestingly. George Alexander had some Friendly inclinations.  

Friendly regards, Scott 





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Saturday, April 21, 2018

Alps: 2 faculty senates for A) "America World University and School" in English, and B) "Germany World University and School" planned in German, Email to Stanford President Emeritus Gerhard Casper, and his reply, Stanford Historical Society faculty senate panel, JRR Tolkien books, David McCullough's "The Wright Brothers," Cities need help with governance with A.I. per this Stanford Law CodeX fellow, Tony Lai, Perhaps countries do as well. And universities may also need help with teaching and research online, with A.I., machine learning, the blockchain ledger, robotics and other remarkable developments in the information technology age, WUaS is also planning to develop a realistic virtual earth/universe/Harbin for STEM research and as a classroom: think Google Street View with TIME SLIDER / Maps / Earth / Brain / TensorFlow AI software / Google Translate plus, And WUaS is already also in Google Education


Hi M,

Reading the 1) "The Fellowship of the Ring" again (the first book in Tolkien's Lord of the Rings' trilogy), and 2) "The Wright Brothers."

The first I'm reading with a kind of delight in Tolkien's language, and agrarian vision of England in the early 1900s - and asking myself philosophically almost: why does this tale of a journey taken by made-up creatures appeal so much again and again? There's something philosophical in the writing in which I learn a kind of wisdom, or way of thinking about wisdom. It's on a very human scale (with imaginative characters), about a ring, that in a way teaches me to be imaginative. And, in reading the second, McCullough's "The Wright Brothers," I'm asking myself: "how did these Ohioans get planes to fly, and technologically?" Bicycle shop parts, motors and mechanical knowledge (and other mechanically-oriented businesses, such as a printing shop which they ran in Dayton, Ohio), experimenting with some early French attempts and their very early "knowledge" of flight (re a French toy helicopter they received in the late 1800s as kids), as a kind of Wright-brothers' riffing even, into multiple attempts in North Carolina, and learning by trial and error. In 1903, they successfully flew the first fixed wing, powered, heavier-than-air airplane near Kitty Hawk, North Carolina (see this "Wright Brothers First Flight RARE Footage" - https://youtu.be/RriKI7u72Xs).  


You might enjoy this letter below I just sent to Stanford President Emeritus Gerhard Casper (1992-2000) - And re getting World University and School to fly too. And Gerhard wrote back! ... 

Dear Mr.MacLeod,
thank you for all the information. I am about to leave for Asia and won’t be able to get tithes for a while. But I will eventually.
Regards,


... Tithes! World University and School would benefit for tithes, and might begin to be able to grow, and even fly!

I replied with:

Dear Professor Casper,
Thank you for your email. World University and School seeks to grow in each of all ~200 countries and their official/main languages, and tithes would make this possible. Thank you. 
Regards, 
Scott MacLeod
Founder President Professor 


What are you up to today, and this weekend? How are you? (Grüß Gott is a colloquial expression of greeting in Bavaria).


L,
Scott



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Friday, April 20, 2018

Grüß Gott, Professor Casper, 

It was very nice to meet and talk with you after your fascinating talk and the edifying panel at the Stanford Historical Society on Stanford's faculty senate - https://historicalsociety.stanford.edu/events/faculty-senate-fifty-years-academic-governance. Thank you. I lived in Munich for a year while I was studying at Reed College, attending classes both through the Reed program in Olympiazentrum, as well as at LMU (Ludwig Maximilian Universität). 

You mentioned a question about the university you're helping with in Nuremberg, and developing online there, I think. What's in the mission of this University in Bavaria re online education? And per your panel yesterday, how would its faculty senate or parallel body of decision-makers focus this? 

Cities need help with governance with A.I. per this Stanford Law CodeX fellow, Tony Lai - https://twitter.com/lai/status/987447040635559936. Perhaps countries do as well. And universities may also need help with teaching and research online, with A.I., machine learning, the blockchain ledger, robotics and other remarkable developments in the information technology age. 

World University and School is like Wikipedia in its 299 languages with CC-4 MIT OpenCourseWare in 5 languages (https://ocw.mit.edu/courses/translated-courses/ and https://ocw.mit.edu/), and seeks to offer online university degrees in each of all ~200 countries' official main languages, as well as wiki schools for open teaching and learning in each of all 7,097 living languages (per Ethnologue). WUaS seeks to offer online Bachelor, Ph.D., law, M.D. as well as I.B. high school degrees - again in each of all ~200 nation states' official languages. While WUaS incorporated as a nonprofit in about 2011 in the U.S. and California, and seeks to accredit probably with WASC senior, which Stanford accredits with as well (see the Stanford and UC Berkeley accreditation pages here - https://worlduniversityandschool.blogspot.com/2018/04/apr-14-2018-agenda-for-world-univ-schs.html), WUaS may seek to develop faculty senates in each of all ~200 countries' official languages, partly to facilitate the creativity of different cultural / language approaches to learning at the university and high school levels, as well as related research. This would also potentially generate a remarkable cross-cultural / university conversation too. 

To give you an idea of how WUaS works, here's the "Theories of Learning" wiki subject page - https://wiki.worlduniversityandschool.org/wiki/Theories_of_Learning (accessible here - https://wiki.worlduniversityandschool.org/wiki/Subjects) - and matriculated students will be able to take the MIT OCW courses in the top section for credit toward free online CC-4 degrees, at the undergraduate and the graduate levels. Classes would take place in Google group video Hangouts, for example, to facilitate the conference method / seminar approach to university education (https://wiki.worlduniversityandschool.org/wiki/Conference_Method_of_Teaching_and_Learning) in new ways. MIT has neither a Law School nor a Medical School, so MIT OCW doesn't have CC-4 OpenCourseWare in any language in this fields, and WUaS will seek to develop this OCW in all ~200 countries' languages, perhaps in conjunction with the New England Journal of Medicine's course ware for continuing education, and with Project ECHO and Google's Project Baseline, for online WUaS medical schools with online teaching hospitals for clinical care. 

To give you an idea of how multiple languages will work at WUaS, see this Youtube video - https://youtu.be/aSWzQUH4xfw - (accessible from
https://www.youtube.com/WorldUnivandSch). This video touches on these two Wikipedia Romanian language pages as examples: 


And World University and School's "front end" Miraheze Mediawiki - e.g. https://wiki.worlduniversityandschool.org/wiki/German_language (but which isn't in German yet) - is the same information technology as Wikipedia's "front end" (which anyone can edit).

WUaS donated ourselves to Wikidata / Wikibase for co-development in 2015, and as a consequence got this new wiki (eg the links above) in 2017. And Wikidata / Wikibase is the "back end" of Wikipedia as a structured knowledge database in 288 active languages with language communities. Many Wikidata developers are based in and around Berlin, and Wikidata is a chapter of the Wikimedia Foundation, based in SF.

The wiki side of WUaS may also be a kind of laboratory for sharing best teaching and learning, and research, approaches, on which any university could draw (cities and countries too) - for  A.I., machine learning, robotics and other developments in the information technology age. And it also could be developed as such. 

WUaS is also planning to develop a realistic virtual earth/universe/Harbin for STEM research and as a classroom: think Google Street View with TIME SLIDER / Maps / Earth / Brain / TensorFlow AI software / Google Translate plus. And WUaS is already also in Google Education. 

While World University and School would like to become the Harvard / MIT / Stanford / Oxbridge of the Internet in each of all ~200 countries' official languages, and as wiki schools for open teaching and learning in all 8,475 languages (entries in Glottolog), attracting highest achieving students studying from their homes in all ~200 countries (per the Olympics) will be part of this process. And since MIT OCW is CC-4 licensed, allowing for A) sharing, B) adapting but C) non-commercially, students around the world would get a MIT education for free. And Germany too would get MIT in German for free, in a sense.  



So I'm writing to inquire, Stanford President Emeritus Casper, if you would be available to communicate further about all of this - and re the university you're helping to develop in Germany - and be willing too please to entertain the idea of becoming World University and School's first president of two faculty senates - the English-speaking WUaS - e.g. https://wiki.worlduniversityandschool.org/wiki/English_language (eventually to become "USA World Univ & Sch" - https://wiki.worlduniversityandschool.org/wiki/United_States_of_America - or perhaps "America WUaS") - initially available from all ~200 countries over the internet, and Germany World University and School - https://wiki.worlduniversityandschool.org/wiki/Germany - planed in the German language (so "Deutschland WUaS" or "Deutschland Welt Universität und Schule," oder irgendwie ähnlich) ?



I feel honored to have met you, and thank you so much for your great vision re the Stanford faculty senate, and sharing of your practical experience and knowledge as Stanford President Emeritus in these regards yesterday.


Thank you.

Alles Gute, 
Scott


Each country - https://wiki.worlduniversityandschool.org/wiki/Nation_States - to become a major online university - in its official / main languages -https://wiki.worlduniversityandschool.org/wiki/Languages



-- 
- Scott MacLeod - Founder & President  

- World University and School

- 415 480 4577

- CC World University and School - like CC Wikipedia with best STEM-centric CC OpenCourseWare - incorporated as a nonprofit university and school in California, and is a U.S. 501 (c) (3) tax-exempt educational organization. 


On 2:15PM, Fri, Apr 20, 2018 Scott MacLeod wrote:
Hi M, 
How are you today? What are you up to this weekend? I have a number of emails to follow up with - to the former president of Stanford, Gerhard Casper, whom I met yesterday in a Stanford Historical Society panel, as well as a grant proposal to proceed outlining ... plus a bunch of other things on my list ... What do you think about the Harvard Quaker chaplain, John Bach, here in the third part of my blog entry - https://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/2018/04/dendrobium-lindley-realistic-virtual.html (in the first video of him) ? 
L, Scott








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Friday, April 20, 2018

Dendrobium lindley: Realistic virtual Myanmar temples' example - Great structure to riff with for a realistic virtual Harbin Hot Springs to begin, (Think IN Google Street View with TIME SLIDER / Maps / Earth), if people started, for example, to convert film/video from the 1960s/'70s into an interactive 3D virtual earth and then patched this together - as a NEW FORM OF HISTORY EVEN (as methodology etc, Such a video-to-realistic-3D-virtual-earth-with-avatar-bots computer application / program isn't written YET), Historical TRUTH machine too?, Quakers, nontheist Friends and Sexuality?, The Harvard chaplains are so diverse!, Harvard Quaker Chaplain, John Bach, and the 1960s


Dear Cedric, Nelson, Amir, Dean and All, 

I just came across this realistic virtual Myanmar temples' example - artsexperiments.withgoogle.com/bagan/ - and it seems germane to what we've talked about, Cedric, Amir and All ... 




Truth machine too?

"walking" and "ambling" are traveling / mobility words - part of many people's definition of tourism ... but not used in the context of a realistic virtual earth / Harbin often yet ... or language-wise in virtual worlds ... and re visiting, for example, the Harbin Hot Springs' gate here ~ http://tinyurl.com/p62rpcg ~ https://twitter.com/HarbinBook ~ http://bit.ly/HarbinBook  ~ 

And re visiting heritage (UNESCO WHS and other) in each of all ~200 countries' official/main languages virtually - https://wiki.worlduniversityandschool.org/wiki/Nation_States - in these major online MIT OCW-centric universities? How best to scale & grow this?

Scott



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Great structure to riff with for a realistic virtual Harbin Hot Springs to begin https://artsexperiments.withgoogle.com/bagan/  & https://twitter.com/googlevr/status/985967564994985984 … & https://support.google.com/edu/expeditions/answer/7034713?hl=en … @googlevand & for ethno-wiki-virtual-world-graphy https://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/search/label/ethno-wiki-virtual-world-graphy … & for cells/atoms too https://twitter.com/HarbinBook/status/984880966870089728 … ~




https://twitter.com/scottmacleod/status/986009421233897482
https://twitter.com/HarbinBook/status/986004863560462339


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In Aug 2016, earthquakes damaged the famous temples of Bagan in Myanmar. Thankfully, the @CyArk team created a 3D digital archive before disaster struck. With them, @googlearts was able to reconstruct key monuments which you can now explore in #VR here: https://artsexperiments.withgoogle.com/bagan/




https://twitter.com/googlevr/status/985967564994985984



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Great 3D Google VR project focusing on Conservation, Recovery & Discovery with Architectural Design as a part https://artsandculture.google.com/project/cyark  Curious how it will dovetail with Street View w TIME SLIDER Maps / Earth in a realistic virtual universe for http://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/search/label/ethno-wiki-virtual-world-graphy?m=0 … @HarbinBook ~




https://twitter.com/HarbinBook/status/986620160986431494




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Quakers, nontheist Friends and Sexuality?


Greetings, Friends, 

I’m surprised no one has mentioned the work of David Boulton which is where I would start. I attach
key ideas I’ve identified in “Real Like the Daisies or Real Like I Love You: Essays in Radical Quakerism.” Key for me. Peggy

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Greetings, Peggy, David and f/Friends, 

Thank you, Peggy. Here are two reviews of David Boulton's “Real Like the Daisies or Real Like I Love You: Essays in Radical Quakerism”: 



I couldn't find an easily accessible and free copy of this writing online otherwise, however.

(Interesting to see too, online, your interests, Peggy:







Greetings to Pendle Hill and K-C Friends. 

Friendly regards, Scott


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Thank you, Peggy.  How could we forget  David Boulton?  He was instrumental in starting this email list.

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Anita Bower  :-)
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WOW and THANKS  Scott!
Friends, note how most of the sexuality resources listed are OLD. I stopped facilitating workshops at FGC when  there were too few registered for one on the parent’s role in education children re sexuality.
I DO like my article on Friend’s leadership re sexuality in “ Friends Face the World.”  Eric Johnson’s 1980 FGC Keynote declared “we must unlearn that sex is a natural act- in fact we learn we are going to express our sexuality.”
Similar  thinking to Boulton’s on how we learn our idea of God. The enthusiasm for Eric’s talk was so great that following it Eric and I facilitated 3 huge afternoon workshops!! What are Friend’s saying NOW about sexuality?   Peggy Brick            

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Hi Peggy,

Nontheist Friends/atheist Quakers on this email list haven't written very much about sexuality over the years that I can recall. I did a quick search in my gmail on "NtFs and sexuality" and noticed on July 5, 2012 in a thread (which thread extends from July 2012 into May of 2013) on "[NTF-talk] Bonobo Culture," this email touching on sexuality, for example: 

Hi Sergey,

Greetings from FGC. I'd recommend de Waal's book as well.

Here's a recent email of mine to this nontheist Friends' email list,
which I added to my blog -
http://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/2012/06/double-helix-thoughts-about-evolution.html
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And I've added other emails to this NtF list with thoughts about what
NtFs might learn from Bonobo here (haven't explored vice versa yet)
here -

http://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/search/label/Bonobo%20chimpanzees

and here -

http://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/search/label/nontheist%20Friend .

And here's World University and School's Bonobo chimpanzee page for
further (somewhat academic) idea sharing, including videos, about
Bonobos -

http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/Bonobo_chimpanzee .

It's the peace aspect of Bonobos - no known fatalities among them -
emerging via evolution by natural selection which I find so relevant
for Friends, and which I hope Quakers and NtFs might even learn from.
Is their 'peaceable kingdom' (the Congo isn't these days - it's a
republic with a fair amount of violence) because of their sexuality?

With f/Friendly greetings,
Scott

I recently learned, however, that Bonobo chimpanzees are not "peaceful" / pacific / non-harming - https://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/2018/04/wetland-learned-something-new-that.html - as I had long thought the evidence suggested.

And while my blog does have a sexuality "label" - https://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/search/label/sexuality - and which may have cross-labels with the NtF label, for example, and my actual-virtual Harbin Hot Springs' ethnographic book also focuses on questions of sexuality (and Quakers too) a bit because of all of the related Harbin Hot Springs workshops over the decades, such as the HAI / the Human Awareness Institute's "Love, Intimacy and Sexuality" workshops, for example - (visit the Harbin Hot Springs' gate here in Street View ~ http://tinyurl.com/p62rpcg ~ and "walk" down the road 4 miles into Middletown, CA ~ http://bit.ly/HarbinBook ~) - sexuality and nontheist Friends/atheist Quakers might be an interest focus here in this NtF email list. 

As you ask, Peggy:

"What are Friends saying NOW about sexuality?" 

What are your thoughts about sexuality and f/Friends/Quakers these days, Peggy? 

(I'm particularly interested in questions of cultivating what I'm calling loving bliss neurophysiology and Quakers/NtFs in these regards). 

Peggy, did we overlap at Pendle Hill sometime between 1987 and about 1990? :)

Friendly cheers, Scott


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Harvard Quaker Chaplains, John Bach, and the 1960s

https://chaplains.harvard.edu/people/john-bach


Dear nontheist f/Friends, 

I just came across the Quaker chaplain at Harvard:



John Bach, Quaker Chaplain at Harvard


John Bach, Quaker Chaplain at Harvard


John Bach ’69

I arrived at Wesleyan in 1965, in the midst of the dirtiest little war imaginable, as part of the first class under the admission policy of John Hoy—a man who really rocked the boat, bringing in a lot of minorities and taking chances on a lot of interesting people whose SAT scores might not have immediately qualified them for a Little Three education.

He's also the Friend-in-Residence at Cambridge Friends' Meeting.

I wonder how he would share about / teach about nontheist Friends, if Harvard students might have questions about NtFs, their thinking about atheism and Quakers, or if members of the Harvard community might want to talk about nontheism among Friends, for example.

Chaplaincy at Harvard also seems to have a pastoral care / mental health / psychotherapy focus. (I just blogged yesterday about this - https://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/2018/04/aeschynanthus-harvard-college-students.html - with an hour-long video from Harvard experts focusing on counseling for college students - and re World University and School and the opportunity to offer psychotherapy and study this too rigorously and academically, in all ~200 countries' official  / main languages). 

What would be flourishing NtF mental health, I wonder - and re John Bach's first video, for example, in his role as Quaker Harvard chaplain? 

He also seems to be a bit of a hippy, having gone to Wesleyan in 1965 (and graduated in 1973).

Quite a diverse group of chaplains there - https://chaplains.harvard.edu/people - and there have been chaplains at Harvard since the 1630s, I think. As I listen to some of these Harvard chaplains of diverse faiths on internet video, the language of these faith traditions is fascinating, smart, diverse, and can be theistic. (Just re-tweeted this Harvard Mormon chaplain's video - https://twitter.com/sgkmacleod/status/987066376677281792 ). 

If a John Bach wanted to find out more about nontheistic Friends in his role as Harvard Quaker chaplain, because a student had asked him about NtFs re the student's personal search, what would NtFs John read? The Nontheist Quakers' Wikipedia page -  - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nontheist_Quakers - in English and Spanish (which are very different articles)?

Friendly greetings, 
Scott



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What would be flourishing NtF mental health, I wonder - and re John Bach's first video, for example, in his role as Quaker Harvard chaplain? 

He also seems to be a bit of a hippy, having gone to Wesleyan in 1965 (and graduated in 1973).


I wouldn't say that dropping out of Wesleyan after your sophomore year, awaiting a draft notice in France, returning and refusing induction (and getting a three-year expense-paid vacation at a Federal prison) and then returning to graduate was exactly what hippies were doing in those days!

A remarkable story.


Bill

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The history of hippies in the '60s/'70s, Quakers and conscientious objectors is interesting, possibly sometimes harrowing, and something I learn from. 

Friendly cheers, Scott

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I was comparing John Bach did with what my brother, who is almost the same age, was doing. My brother dropped out of college, went to New York, joined up with a bunch of hippies in the East Village, dropped a bunch of acid, smoked a bunch of pot (fortunately didn't go any further drugwise) and eventually moved with his girlfriend and their child to the country. So that's what I imagine when I think "hippies". 

This was about the same time that my wife and I started attending meeting (although I'd had considerable experience with Quakers when I was young and attended, of all things, the Quaker worship group at Wesleyan, from which I graduated in 1962 and where I served as an instructor in 1964-65, just before John Bach came on campus...I had just finished my degree and moved to Texas so John and I did not overlap.) The Quakers and the Unitarians in Austin Texas were the only groups seriously working against the Vietnam war in 1967 when we started attending, and my earlier experience with Quakers made Friends Meeting the obvious choice for us.

I'd be interested to hear more about hippie/Quaker connections; I wasn't really aware of them at the time.

Bill

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I'm not aware of any books or writings about this, but I'd posit that numerous connections grew and flourished re Friends and hippies in the '60s and 70s. I'm curious too to learn further about this. I could see a wide range of trajectories (book-wise, thesis-wise) that this could take.

Scott


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I could also see a wide range of trajectories that connections grew and flourished re Friends and hippies in the '60s and '70s could take in an unfolding realistic virtual earth (think Google Street View with TIME SLIDER / Maps / Earth), if people started, for example, to convert film/video from the 1960s/'70s into an interactive 3D virtual earth and then patched this together - as a new form of history even (as methodology etc). (Such a video-to-realistic-3D-virtual-earth-with-avatar bots computer application / program isn't written yet). Doing this might even allow us to re-live / re-experience hippies and Quakers in the '60s/'70s. I kind of "go there" actually in watching/listening to the Harvard Quaker chaplain John Bach. :)

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